{"id":4147,"date":"2016-04-23T12:32:11","date_gmt":"2016-04-23T18:32:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/?p=4147"},"modified":"2016-04-23T12:32:11","modified_gmt":"2016-04-23T18:32:11","slug":"houses-houses-houses","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/houses-houses-houses\/","title":{"rendered":"Houses, Houses, Houses"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This past Wednesday, after both of us finished dental appointments in Grand Junction, we drove to Montrose and met our realtor, Linda, to view the inside of 4 houses we had identified as being &#8220;potential&#8221; retirement properties. The results were a mixed bag; I&#8217;ll start with the worst and work up to the best.<\/p>\n<p>The worst was the 1930&#8217;s era fixer-upper bungalow in Cedaredge. (820 West Main.) The place is in pretty bad shape and there were no architectural details worth saving. We left quickly.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_4148\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/381.jpg\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4148\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-4148\" src=\"http:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/381-300x198.jpg\" alt=\"Holes in the roof at 820 W. Main\" width=\"300\" height=\"198\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/381-300x198.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/381-768x506.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/381-1024x674.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-4148\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Holes in the roof at 820 W. Main<\/p><\/div>\n<p>The next property was the peach and cherry orchard on Weaver Road outside of Austin. While the house had some nice features, like the kitchen and entry, the place was very &#8220;chopped up&#8221; with a very strange floor plan (due to making the main house\u00a0into two rental units). Excellent views of the San Juan and West Elk Mountains though, but no garage or outbuildings. \u00a0With some reluctance we decided the orchard could\u00a0be eliminated from consideration.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_4149\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/371.jpg\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4149\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-4149\" src=\"http:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/371-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"Entry and kitchen of orchard house\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/371-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/371-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/371-1024x768.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-4149\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Entry and kitchen of orchard house<\/p><\/div>\n<div id=\"attachment_4150\" style=\"width: 258px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/378.jpg\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4150\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-4150\" src=\"http:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/378-248x300.jpg\" alt=\"Overlooking Austin with West Elk Mountains in background.\" width=\"248\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/378-248x300.jpg 248w, https:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/378-768x929.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/378-846x1024.jpg 846w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 248px) 100vw, 248px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-4150\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Overlooking Austin with West Elk Mountains in background.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Next on the list\u00a0was\u00a0the Marshall&#8217;s Road property. We had high hopes for this one but ran into a couple of major issues. We knew, from the listing photos, that the walk-through galley kitchen was not what Pam\u00a0wanted and would require a major renovation to modernize it.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_4151\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/350.jpg\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4151\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-4151\" src=\"http:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/350-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"Marshall's Road kitchen\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/350-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/350-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/350-1024x768.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-4151\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Marshall&#8217;s Road kitchen<\/p><\/div>\n<p>The kitchen space could be expanded into a bedroom that shares the right-hand wall. This would leave two small bedrooms and one bath on the main floor, but the cost of a kitchen renovation is generally quite high. Plus, in a house built in 1909, what would be behind wall #1? Touching the electrical during such a renovation would likely require bringing the entire house up to code, which would mean losing the antique ceiling fixtures in the living and dining rooms. \u00a0Bummer, there goes the charm.<\/p>\n<p>Then we descended down a steep and dark stairwell with minimal hand rails\u00a0into the cellar, where we fund a truly antique furnace. Coal-fired with an automatic stoker, this thing is a monster.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_4152\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/361.jpg\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4152\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-4152\" src=\"http:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/361-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"Coal-fired furnace with stoker\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/361-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/361-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/361-1024x768.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-4152\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Coal-fired furnace with stoker<\/p><\/div>\n<p>I\u00a0estimate it would be about a $5,000.00 job to replace this unit with a modern gas furnace. Again, by itself not a deal breaker, but over-all the cost (and labor required) to bring this place up to our standards would be quite high. And not just in major projects\u2026the windows are the old style sliders that use a weight-and-pulley system; some of the windows had broken cords and the windows did not work properly. While not difficult to repair, it does mean every window would need attention. \u00a0 \u00a0The costs would add up since we would not have the time (and knowledge, in some cases) to do the work ourselves and would have to hire contractors.<\/p>\n<p>And not just inside work\u2026the 3+ acre lot also needs attention. For example, this old cement block building would have to go. So would the tree house behind it.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_4164\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/348.jpg\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4164\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-4164\" src=\"http:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/348-300x174.jpg\" alt=\"Old building would have to go\" width=\"300\" height=\"174\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/348-300x174.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/348-768x445.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/348-1024x593.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-4164\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Old building would have to go<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Still, the yard and views are very attractive &#8211; the front lawn is almost like a park.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_4166\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/347.jpg\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4166\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-4166\" src=\"http:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/347-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"West Elk few from driveway\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/347-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/347-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/347-1024x768.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-4166\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">West Elk view\u00a0from driveway<\/p><\/div>\n<p>And many rooms in\u00a0the house were\u00a0appealing, such as the dining\u00a0area.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_4168\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/351.jpg\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4168\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-4168\" src=\"http:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/351-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"Dining room features antique light fixture\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/351-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/351-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/351-1024x768.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-4168\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dining room features antique light fixture<\/p><\/div>\n<p>While not eliminated from consideration, this place would not be at the top of our &#8216;pick list&#8217; unless the price dropped significantly. There are many high-priced renovation projects involved in moving forward.<\/p>\n<p>The last property, on Tulip Circle in Montrose, was nicer inside than the listing photos indicated. Because of the price and the way the property is marketed (it&#8217;s a foreclosure, over $300,000 asking price, being sold at\u00a0auction through a 3rd party) we did not initially consider it a real possibility. I didn&#8217;t take photos so will use a couple of the listing photos.<\/p>\n<p>First, the way this property is being sold is\u2026 ah\u2026.unique to us. The listing company, Hubzu.com, takes on-line bids and submits them to the property owner, in this case I am\u00a0guessing a bank. The bank can accept or reject all bids. If all bids are rejected,\u00a0the bid process\u00a0is\u00a0re-opened for another round of bids. (So far this property has been through 3 bid cycles.) The kicker is that Hubzu collects an additional 4.5% of the winning bid price as a closing cost (essentially, this covers the Seller&#8217;s usual Broker\/Realtor fee payment plus some profit for Hubzu). The percentage\u00a0adds many thousands of dollars to the price of the property\u00a0&#8212;\u00a0$11,250.00 on a winning bid of $250,000.00 for example. Closing costs might, or might not, be financed as part of a loan on the property. If not, this means the Buyer has to have a lot more cash up front, a problem for us as it would be in addition to the 20% down payment. We are going to get more information on this process and see if it is a viable avenue for us to pursue, either for this house or some future one.<\/p>\n<p>The house itself is about ten years old and\u00a0quite contemporary, with upgrades to bathrooms and kitchen. It does feature two bedrooms on the main floor, each with an attached bath, along with a laundry area and a main floor bonus room (probably office). Upstairs are a couple more bedrooms with a shared bath.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_4156\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/kitchen.jpg\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4156\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-4156\" src=\"http:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/kitchen-300x209.jpg\" alt=\"Kitchen\" width=\"300\" height=\"209\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/kitchen-300x209.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/kitchen.jpg 646w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-4156\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Kitchen in Tulip Circle home<\/p><\/div>\n<div id=\"attachment_4157\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/bath.jpg\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4157\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-4157\" src=\"http:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/bath-300x168.jpg\" alt=\"Master bath on main level\" width=\"300\" height=\"168\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/bath-300x168.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/bath.jpg 639w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-4157\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Master bath on main level<\/p><\/div>\n<p>On the other hand, the living room is quite small and there is no defined dining room. The dining room\u00a0table would end up in the kitchen area, potentially disrupting the traffic flow to the rear deck.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_4160\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/livingroom.jpg\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4160\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-4160\" src=\"http:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/livingroom-300x211.jpg\" alt=\"Living room\" width=\"300\" height=\"211\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/livingroom-300x211.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.appleattic.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/livingroom.jpg 644w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-4160\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Living room<\/p><\/div>\n<p>There are also HOA (Home Owner&#8217;s Association) fees and regulations, most of which deal which appearance of the property. Since there is no outside storage at present (there is an attached 2-car garage) it remains to be seen if an additional detached outside storage structure to house my toys would be permitted. We are checking (through the realtor) about this.<\/p>\n<p>So, while we initially thought the Tulip\u00a0property was beyond us (originally sold for $420,000 a\u00a0decade ago), we were impressed enough to look further into the auction system and how we might be able to move forward. The odds are against us; we believe the minimum the bank would accept is more than we have\u00a0to offer, but the longer the place stays on the market the better our chances become. Watch this space!<\/p>\n<p>Around our current\u00a0house on the high desert, lilacs are just staring to bud\u00a0and, for the first time ever, the\u00a0white lilac bush looks like it will flower. A Mother&#8217;s Day gift to Pam a few years back, the lilac has grown well every year but has never flowered. A few white buds are beginning to open and maybe (assuming no more freezing nights)\u00a0there will be quite a show of flowers in the coming weeks. White lilacs\u00a0would be excellent, but the plant&#8217;s\u00a0main landscape attribute\u00a0is an amazing growth pattern that now provides screening for neighbors&#8217; ugly properties.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s it for now. Thanks for looking in!<\/p>\n<p>Pam&#8217;s Two Cents Worth:<\/p>\n<p>Two of the retirement houses in contention\u00a0above\u00a0represent a tug of war between the heart and the head. \u00a0The heart says 1909 historic Grandma house, absolutely. \u00a0The Seller has a photo\u00a0of the original building standing treeless on the property in 1909; it has remained in their family for over 100 years. Truly a property worth updating (kitchen, furnace, electrical). \u00a0So says the heart.<\/p>\n<p>On the other hand, a newer home like the Tulip house perhaps makes more sense for the older folks we are becoming; it has an updated charm, and is on a large lot in an upscale subdivision. \u00a0The auction process is unconventional and may or may not be something we can pursue due to cash on hand. \u00a0But a newer home would likely result in fewer large and costly renovation projects and (potentially)\u00a0fewer\u00a0maintenance issues over the next few decades. \u00a0So says the head.<\/p>\n<p>And the winner\u00a0is? Maybe neither one. \u00a0I think I could use a time out.<\/p>\n<p>Happy Trails.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This past Wednesday, after both of us finished dental appointments in Grand Junction, we drove to Montrose and met our realtor, Linda, to view the inside of 4 houses we had identified as being &#8220;potential&#8221; retirement properties. The results were a mixed bag; I&#8217;ll start with the worst and work up to the best. 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