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Merry Christmas!

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We may have a white Christmas after all. We woke up to a light coating of snow this morning, about 1/2 inch. It is just enough to make everything lightly powdered in white. This sure  makes the outdoor lights look more festive. A light coating is all we need, and it looks like that is all we will get between now and the 25th.

Pam has the week after Christmas off, as her work place closes down for a winter break. I’ve taken a few days off that week, so we will have some time to shop the after-Christmas sales and take a trip to look at some properties we have seen on the “For Sale” sites we monitor. We have often shopped and celebrated our Christmas after the 25th. This goes back to my retail days, when the weeks leading up to Christmas were filled with long hours and odd schedules. Both of us are looking forward to the break.

Ok..I admit it. I do have an off-beat sense of humor. To all who commented on the “Feliz Navidad” clip (and the limited-distributed “Santa Claus is Coming To Town”) thanks for your feedback. I find humor to be a good way to relieve tension and gain a bit of perspective. I hope these brought a smile to your face and maybe made your day easier. There will be more clips throughout the next year.

Riding my ATV, “The Griz”

I’ve been riding my ATV in the Wild Horse Mesa area, and enjoying getting the experience. This area is not very scenic, but does have some off-road trails where I can get used to climbing slopes, going though dry washes, and climbing over rocks. I did see my first genuine wild horse on one of these outings. That was neat! I ride with my helmet on; this photo was staged (the camera is on a tripod) and I decided to leave the helmet off for the shot.

Pam’s father has taken a turn for the worse. He is suffering from advanced Alzheimer’s, and now needs to be put in a full care facility. Up to this point he had been doing OK in an assisted living unit, but has reached the point where that no longer works. Pam’s brother Larry has done a Hurculean job of taking care of Myron’s affairs, and the entire family, including Pam and myself, thank him for his dedication. Larry is now in the process of finding a care facility for Myron.

I’m listening to Christmas music as I type this, mostly instrumentals. Its a good feeling. I am looking forward to Christmas and the break next week. To all who visit this blog, have a Merry Christmas!

Year in Review

Welcome!

Welcome!

Welcome to all who might be looking at this page as a result of our Christmas card, which included the address of this web site and blog. Pam and I wish you the best of the season!

A year ago this blog did not exist. I started it last spring (February 23)  as a means of letting extended family and friends know what we’re doing and what’s going on with us. So, what happened in the last year? Plenty. Some good, some bad; the year was a real mixed bag.

My Dad died on December 27th, 2010. As that anniversary approaches he’s on my mind a lot. We also lost Pam’s Aunt Angela in the last year (and her husband Uncle John a year prior). They were among the few relatives who had visited us when we lived in Arizona and here in Colorado. These losses have been low points.  Additionally, Pam’s father is in the late stages of Alzheimer’s at a care facility in Wisconsin.  Adding to the list: A good friend for 30 years, Elinor, from our Nederland mountain living days, recently had a stroke.  We’re in that stage of life, I guess, where the previous generation is starting to leave us and it hurts to lose them.

On the up side, Pam’s sister Becky had both of her daughters, Caitlin and Lilly, graduate from their respective colleges. Way to go! My sister Kitt (Carolyn) visited us in early June for a few days. We enjoyed her visit and the opportunity to catch up with each other. Pam’s friend Sarah from our Madison, Wisconsin days, was able to meet with us while she was in Colorado; her home is in Rhode Island.  Sarah’s son was married this year, and she had a lot of photos to show us. It was good to see her again. My cousin Marcia became a grandmother, and is delighted to have a grandbaby. There is a whole new generation growing up from nieces and nephews who have married and started families.

Our kids, Felicity and Toby, did OK last year. Both are employed and making it on their own. I guess that counts for something in this economy!  Felicity is living in Portland, Oregon, and enjoys city life. Toby is living in Longmont, Colorado, which is north-west of Denver. Both are in good health and trying to make their way in the world – or at least live above the poverty line. Felicity is working part-time and trying to develop her web site design and maintenance company. Toby is working at a manufacturing plant that makes small metal parts for a variety of products. Neither is living high off the hog, but they seem to enjoy what they’re doing. That counts for something.

Most of you know I ride a motorcycle, and have since before I was married. (We celebrated our 37th anniversary this August.) I did ride to the California coast in June, and co-sponsored a rally in Durango, Colorado in July. We had people from many Western states attend, and a good time was had by all.

In a similar vein, I’ve been working on my ’76 Scout II 4×4, my 2001 Mountain Max snowmobile, and was able to purchase an ATV. I enjoy all 3 rides in addition to riding my motorcycle.

Pam continues her animal rescue work. We fostered kittens again this year, our 19th foster litter since 2004. The last 2 kittens were returned to their shelter about 2 weeks ago, where they were put up for adoption. Many get listed on-line at www.petfinders.com. If you are ever looking for a pet, this site is a good place to visit! We also acquired a 3rd rescue dog in November. Auburn Jo is mostly Spaniel, but has some Italian Greyhound and some unknown mix in her genetic make-up. She is settling in well. Between the fosters, our pets, and the outside cats that more-or-less call our place home, we often look like Pet Central. 140 pounds of cat litter per week, anyone?

Pam and I embarked on a quest in 2011 to find a piece of Colorado high country recreational land we could afford to purchase. Although the town we live in is not large, neither of us is particularly fond of living in it, and we feel the need to get out on a frequent basis. We thought we’d found our “dream land” but ran into issues of access. The parcel we wanted is reached by a road that runs through BLM (Bureau of Land Management) land, and the road is not considered public. So, the search continues.  Land purchase in the high country demands a long learning curve, and apparently we’re still learning.  Maybe we’ll find “it” in 2012?

We encourage you to look at the various pages on our site. There are separate pages that talk about most of the things I’ve mentioned so far. There are  Kids, Cats, Dogs, and Jer’s Toys pages, with pictures, that go into more detail.  You can get to them from the main page.  Get there by clicking the  “AppleAttic Home” tab at the top of this page, and from there visit the “specialty” pages by clicking on the tabs at the top of the page. (Here is a shortcut.)  Many of the photos can be clicked on to open a larger version. If you click on photos in the slide shows they will open into a larger version with captions and comments.

If you really have time to kill, you can go back through my previous posts on this blog! 🙂  Most of the posts have photos, so you can pick and choose what you care to read based on what looks interesting.

If you wish to leave a comment, or read comments left by others, click on the little blue dot at the bottom-right of each of these posts. A page will come up where you can enter your comments and send them to us. We would like to hear from you! I generally post a couple of times a month, so check in now and then in 2012 to see what’s new.

May this Christmas  be a good one for you and your families, wherever you all may be.

Home for Christmas

Home for Christmas

That’s it for now. Thanks for looking in!

A Cornucopia of Updates and News

(Note: Clicking on any image will bring up a larger version of that photo.)

Boy. It’s been too long since I last posted, and there is a lot of ground to cover.

Land Hunt Update: We have mostly given up on the Martha A land. The guy from the BLM called me back and said they can’t verify that public access was established under R.S 2477. While we could buy the land and apply for a right-of-way permit, we feel it is up to the current owners to secure legal access to the parcel. As a result we have begun looking at other listings again. This is disappointing, but we knew going in that there was an issue with the access road crossing BLM land.

Big news: We have gained an additional dog. Her name is Auburn “Jo.”  Pam found her at The Second Chance, a rescue agency in Ridgway, Colorado.  We purchased a doggie DNA kit, and are waiting to see what Jo’s genetic makeup is. We believe she has some Spaniel in her, as she was originally sheltered by a Spaniel rescue group out of Wyoming. (Most breed-specific rescue groups do not generally handle animals not of that breed.) Anyway, Jo is about 10 months old now, and still very much a puppy. She seems to fit well with Blondie and Bru, and the cats just tend to ignore her. We have had her a couple weeks as of this post. You can see a photo of Pam and the 3 dogs on our About Us blog page. Here is a photo taken at the rescue when we picked her up.

We adopt our 3rd dog, Jo

Jo and Soot nap on the couch.

As you can see, the cats have integrated Jo into the household quite well!

In other family news, we celebrated Toby’s birthday in late October. He drove over for  dinner, cake, and an evening of talk. It was good to see him and catch up on events in his life.

Felicity did not get the Web Master job she had applied for. From her description of the interview it was pretty clear they already had someone else in mind. Too bad, as the job sounded like a good fit for Felicity’s talents and skills.

Thanksgiving was celebrated by the 2 of us with a traditional turkey dinner. Well, not quite traditional as we did not cook a turkey, but instead cooked a packaged turkey breast. It was excellent, as were Pam’s pumpkin and strawberry-rhubarb pies.

We did not hit the Black Friday sales, but I did venture out to get groceries and run some other errands. I heard it was a zoo at some stores. One of the places I stopped, to get some low fencing, was a chain outfit named Murdochs. They had a 20 percent off sale going on, and every register had a line behind it.  Murdochs is a farm supply type of place, and we stop there occasionally  for pet supplies and plants in season. I got my fencing and left.

We have received our first Christmas card. It’s not even December as I type this. Oh well. Pam got started on updating our card list, which seems to shrink a bit every year as aunts and uncles pass on. It is sad to remove these names, and often gives us moments of contemplation about the length and twists and turns of life. My Dad passed away last year on December 27, so the first anniversary of his passing is coming up next month. It’s never far from the front of my thoughts.

But, on the bright side, one of my Bucket List items has been reached: I now own an ATV. I had not really planned to get one this year, but had seen a few “year-end” closeout deals offered at a couple dealers. I’ve been talking about getting an ATV for a couple of years. Pam encouraged me to go ahead with a purchase when I found this particular unit. I think she was getting tired of hearing me talk about it. So, with her blessing, I brought home a Yamaha Grizzly 550 ATV. It has the optional, but highly regarded, Electronic-assisted Power Steering (EPS.) My riding experience to date had been only demo rides, so I have a new set of skills to acquire. We live near Wild Horse Mesa, a good training area for ATV riders, so I will try to get some miles under my belt in the next few weeks before snow covers the ground. I am looking forward to it!

My new Grizzly 550.

Jerry exploring Wild Horse Mesa.

 

What’s ahead for the next month? Pam is up against a real headache: she and her coworkers are moving into a remodeled building. This particular project has been poorly handled, with office politics trumping functionality. The space she is moving into is smaller than the space she shares now. As one employee put it, the move is like moving from “a sardine tin into a peanut shell.” All records and desks must be packed and moved, then unpacked. Some office machinery, like large postage machines, high-capacity printers, and copiers will be split between 2 buildings. The buildings are not adjacent to each other, and are on 2 sides of a very busy highway. It is going to be a rough transition.

And, of course, Christmas is only a month away. Outdoor decorations begin going up tomorrow at the Fields house. Cards and letters will begin to get mailed out. Instead of a newsletter, our cards will feature the address of this blog. People who are interested can read all about our last year on these pages. What a thrill that should be! 🙂

That’s it for now. Thanks for looking in!

 

Short update.

Boy, are we into the weeds now. I received a call from the state BLM office. The gentleman who called took the mineral survey number of the Martha A and will do some research to see if a right-of-way exists.

I found a good summation of  Revised Statute 2477 here:

http://cozine.com/2001-march/rs-2477-old-roads-and-new-controversies/

If you use a search engine and enter R.S. 2477 you will get several pages of hits.

I received a call from our realtor at Spring Creek Realty, Jimm Hammond. Spring Creek may take the lead in forming a road association for the area containing the Martha A lode. This would benefit the realty office as it would make it easier for them to sell properties like the Martha A. In addition, Jim knows the people who live in the area and has worked with the BLM in the formation of 3 other road associations. If the BLM opinion goes against us this may be an alternative to pursue.

On another topic, our yard was white with snow this morning, first time this season. Its a little eary; normally we don’t get snow until late November. I had to dig around a bit to find my snow shovel, but had already equipped the cars with scrapers and brushes. Having the garage does help in the mornings, but the cars do sit in parking lots at work.

I’ve been working on my 1976 Scout II. In the last 3 weeks I have replaced the suspension springs, installed new front shock absorbers, and had the cracked windshield replaced. The goal is to get the Scout ready to make a trip back to Wisconsin as a tow vechicle so I can trailer Dad’s old 8N Ford tractor home. There are several repairs to be made yet, but I am making progress. I should be ready to go by spring!

Thats it for now. Thanks for looking in!

Land info – confusing?

I was going to answer some of the comments in a reply, but the full answers are relatively long. I decided to do a post instead. (Note: Clicking on an image will bring up a larger and more legible version of that image.)

Tabitha:
We don’t know about wild horses in the Cripple Creek area. We currenlty live east of Wild Horse Mesa, where wild horses run in a protected area. I’ve gone 4-wheeling there but have not seen the herd. Every few of years some of the horses are trapped and sold at auction to keep the numbers sustainable. In the Cripple Creek area we are more likely to see deer and elk.

Larry:
I have an lot-map-plus-arial-view overlay provided by the county, but the overlay is wrong. It puts the lot to the east of the access road. It looks like the county flipped the overlay to the right instead of to the left, so I didn’t scan and post that document.

Yes, there is an acess road on the west side of the Martha A. We have walked it. There is an interesting reason it is there: The parcel to the south, the Last Chance, does not run all the way out to the BLM access road. While that owner has built a drive out to the road, it may not be legal.  The access road on the west side of the Martha A is there to get legal access to the Last Chance if the BLM ever gets nasty about access.

Why the strange lot shapes and overlays?

Originally land in the Cripple Creek area was all government-owned. Miners could plat a claim then file for a “land patent” which transfered the land into their ownership. The overlapping occured when other parties moved in and platted lots that included parts of existing, but not patented, claims. The government could approve the new plat and make the claim available to patent. Often land between claims would be patented, hoping that any mineral veins from the other plats would extend into these lots. This practice lead to some very stange parcel shapes. (There were charges of claim jumping and other illegal actions dealing with the legitimacy of some land patents, and new court cases occasionally come up to this day.)

Here is part of the original 1899 Martha A plat I found in the BLM records:

1899 plat detail

Note the phrase “…if incorporated into a patent…” in the document. At some point the Martha A was patented, moving the land from governement ownership into private hands. Below is the entire plat document.

1899 plat map

When the Martha A was platted, it “absorbed” some land, including survey number 10710 shown to the south, as well as parts of the Ruby to the west and Last Dollar to the east. All of this was quite common in the day. If no patent had been issued, the federal government considered the land fair game for a new plat.  Land grant patents were stopped many years ago, so BLM land will stay BLM land, plated or not. Fot example, the Ruby plat to the west of the Martha A was not patented, and has since reverted to BLM ownership, as has the Last Dollar plat to the east.
 
Confusing? Yes. More to the point for us: It makes access to private parcels a real problem, as you need to get easments across all patented parcels to get to yours as no public roads serve these lots. Best way is to get a ‘recorded easment’ that becomes part of the land title. In the case of the Martha A there are easements written into the land titles of the patents, all 8 of them, that the road crosses. However, part of the road crosses BLM land. Therein lies the problem.
 
The BLM won’t issue or approve a “recorded” easement over BLM property. About 3 years ago they started issuing “road permit agreements,” aka right-of-way, or ROW agreements.  There is disagreement within the agency about when an agreement is required and when it is not. 
 
The lady I spoke to at the local BLM office indicated a permit would be required. However, the brochure I downloaded from the BLM site says:

“You don’t need a ROW for so-called “casual use.” What kinds of activities are considered “casual use”? Examples include driving vehicles over existing roads, sampling, surveying, marking routes, collecting data to prepare an application for a ROW, and performing certain activities that do not cause any appreciable disturbance or damage to the public land, resources or improvements.”

In other words, new road construction requires a ROW agreement. Use of existing roads does not, unless it is likely that use of those roads will damage them. At least thas is how I interpret it. The application sent to me (form DF-299) is geared toward new road constuction, such as might be used by mining or energy companies to reach and develope new sites.

If getting to a piece of unimproved land is “casual use” then we don’t need a permit. The existing road has been there for decades. We certainly will not be dististurbing or damaging public lands or roads. However, the lady I spoke to voiced the opinion that owning land moves the use of the road from “casual use” to “vested interest” and therefore requires a ROW permit. I’ve called the state office of the BLM to see if I can get some clarification on this.  

 As I said, we are doing our research and trying to comprehend the ins and outs of buying an old mining claim. This is not a simple land transaction!
 
These are the points the local lady made:

1. If you have a “vested interest”  and use the road to access it, the road needs to be covered by a Right of Way plan. If there is no agreement you are trespassing on BLM property when you use the road.

2. These plans are not normally issued to individual land owners, but can be in some cases. A road owner’s association generally needs to be formed to apply (and pay for) the road agreement.

3. The road association needs to register with the State of Colorado. ($35.00)

4. The county will not issue a building permit until the road agreement is in place.

There is a cost for all of this:

1. Impact statement processing fee: Average is category 3, $786.00. This fee covers up to 36 man-hours of labor. If it takes more than 36 man-hours the price goes up. Labor includes a site survey, vistit from foresters, hydrologists, and others to determin the impact of use on BLM land.

2. Rent of the portion of BLM land taken up by the road: $34.66 per acre per year for Teller County. Payable only in 10-year increments. After 30 years the agreement has to be re-negotiated.

3. Monitoring fee to make sure you are keeping the road up to standards set out in the agreement. It is about the same as the rent figure and can fluctuate.

4. Cost of bringing the road up to and maintaining standards set by BLM is born by who ever are named in the road agreement. (Generally this means grading the road once or twice a year and filling in potholes. Culverts must be cleaned and maintained as well.)

 So what does this mean for us? It certainly raises a barrier, and is a catch-22: We may not be able to legally access the land without a ROW agreement (although the trespassing statutes are rarely enforced) and we can’t apply for an agreement until we own the land.  Do we want to go down this path? Assuming we could get an individual agreement, it would mean an outlay of (non-refundable) funds to process the impact statement plus 10 years of rent and monitoring fees. Any work needed on that portion of the road would have to be done at our expense.

 Now we know why the power and phone lines stop up the road. 🙂 Utilities require a separate agreement issued to the utility company. Can you say “off grid?”

 This development certainly reduces the effective value of the lot. Legal access may not be completely secured, and there may be hoops to go though to finish the job. Ironicaly, we can drive the road as much as we wish while looking for land; that is casual use and quite legal. If we buy the Martha A and drive to it, we could be open to trespassing charges! Of course, we could always say we were gathering info to apply for a ROW agreement. Could take years. 🙂

I’m bummed out. Pam and I will have to talk this over, contact the realtor, and see if we want to proceed with an offer. I am still waiting on the response from the State BLM office before we go any further. I’ll post updates as I get them.

 Thats it for now. Thanks for looking in!
 
 
 
 

Additional land info

We are doing our research. Teller County and the realtor furnished a few documents; here are 2 images that further describe the Martha A lode. (Hint: Clicking  the images will bring up a larger version of them.)

Martha A lot map
We had originally walked the part of the lot below the BLM access road, which turns out to be the smaller part of the lot. The best building site is on the north (upper) side of the road just east of center. The lot runs north-south, so west is to the left and east to the right.
 
Craig had asked about the BLM land that borders the lot on the east and west. These are irregular parcels, and the best way to visualize them is to look at this map of parcels in the area. Remember, these are old mine claims, laid out to follow “seams” that the miners hoped would provide fortune:

BLM land around the Martha A lode

 The “Last Chance” borders the Martha A to the south, and the “Uncle Sam” to the north. The part we are concerned with is the BLM land to the south-east; the access road to the lot crosses BLM land and we want to be reasonably sure that the BLM will not close this road to vehicular traffic. This would be unlikely, as there is a trailer (with well) on the Uncle Sam parcel, and a full-time house on the 2nd lot north, the one that borders on the Uncle Sam. (That family is the one who plows the road.) In addition, there are lots to the west of the Martha A that can only be reached from this same access road.

Here is a larger image of parcels in the area around the Martha A:

Parcels around the Martha A Lode

We are still doing our research, but have been pre-approved to make an offer. We are waiting a week so we can get current pay stubs to submitt to the credit union that would finance the transaction.

Thats it for now. Thanks for looking in!

 

 

Fall Colors and Land Hunt

NOTE: Clicking on any of the photos in these posts will bring up a much larger version of that photo!

If you go to my AppleAttic Home Page you will find a link to a Fall Colors page. Take a look at it and try the link that takes you to my Fall Colors gallery if you are interested in seeing more fall color photos.

The big news deals with out Dream Land hunt. We have found a place we like! Here is how it went down.

I took a solo trip to Cripple Creek to view properties with a realtor from Spring Creek Realty. (I’ve mentioned them in previous posts.) Jim and I went to look at a few properties, including one named the Bonita. The Bonita, and several of the parcels Pam and I  have looked at, are old patented mining claims currently zoned A-1 (agricultural) land. While the Bonita had some advantages, access was poor and the lot was not as level as I would have liked. Still, it did have a mix of pine and aspen and a view:

View from the Bonita Lode looking NW

Here is the realtor, Jim Hammond, a little lower down on the lot:

Jim Hammond on the Bonita Lode

To skip ahead, 1 week later Pam and I went back to walk the lot again. It  had snowed:

Jim and Pam walk the Bonita parcel

While there were attractive elements, the poor access and steeper-than-wanted lot put the Bonita into a less-desireable category. We went on to take another look at a lot we had seen previously, but had little information about. Turns out it is known as the Martha A. Lode.

In a previous post I mentioned we had seen 3 parcels that could be contenders. One was taken off the market. The second one, right off Hwy 61 with a view of the back of Pike’s Peak, turned out to be not the parcel I had walked on, but one further north. It consisted mostly of a ravine. We were disappointed. However, the 3rd parcel, 10 acres with a small storage shed on it, turned out to be more than we expected.

We had walked only 1/2 of the Martha A, which is bisected by a BLM access road, on our first visit. The southern part is where the small storage shed is located. We thought that section was the complete lot, but we learned the other half of the parcel lies north of the BLM road. We had not walked the northern half. There is a nice building spot on a knoll that rises on that side. As a bonus the parcel is bordered on 2 sides by BLM land. Here are a few photos of our last visit:

Pam and dogs on the Martha A storage shed

View from knoll looking east

Realtor photo. Access road to the Martha A Lode

BLM road bisects the Martha A Lode. Knoll is at right.

We are excited about this land, and plan to make an offer on it shortly. I had to do some research, calling the county, the BLM, a local well driller, and just getting some background information about buying unimproved land.

This much we have found out: Buying an old mining claim in Colorado is not a straight-forward deal. In this case, the access road crosses BLM land. There is no permanent easement granted by the BLM, but you can sign a Road Permit Agreement that gives you year-round use of the road, provided it is privately maintained. The day we were there the road had been plowed out by one of the residents who apparently does this so he can get to work. Mineral rights are not included, but are available for about $50.00 per acre. To keep the land zoned Agricultural until we could build a house, a grazing rights contract needs to be negotiated with a local rancher. This is what the current owners did, so it does not seem like a big issue to get it done again. There are no power or phone lines to the lot; power and phone are up the road a bit and would cost an estimated $6,000.00 to extend them to the property line. Wells in the county average around 400 feet deep, or about $7,000.00 to put in. Septic system cost about the same, although the decomposed granite underlying the top soil perks out real well. Property taxes run $1.49 per acre per year.

The views are good, not great, although a house would offer a bit broader view. The lot is heavily treed but does have a couple open spots, and a nice place to put a house. Plenty of firewood would arise  from thinning and cleanup of the place. I didn’t check the mileage, but estimate the lot is about 1 – 1.5 miles from the county road, and is about 4 – 5 miles from Cripple Creek proper. In short, except for the size (10 acres vs the 5 or so we were looking for) the Martha A has everything we had on our wish list. Asking price is between 69 – 70K, but we will offer somwehat less to stay within our budget.

This tale sounds kind of dry, perhaps due to my nature. I guess it comes with working with computers so much! We like this lot because of its “feel.” The first time we walked the southern part of it, stood in the meadow, surrounded by trees, we knew it had potential to be our Dream Land. We formed ideas of where a house would go, where the decks would face, how much firewood could we harvest? This lot engaged us more as we walked around on it. Thats why we decided to make an offer once we have our financing arranged; this lot “speaks” to us. No other lot has.

We have started the loan qualification process, and hope to be able to make an offer in the near future. We are excited about this one! Wish us luck. I will update the blog when we move forward.

Here is a photo show of the Martha A Lode:[cincopa AcIAts6cb71G] Move your cursor over photos to activate controls, or click on any photo to bring up a larger image with extended captions.

Thats it for now. Thanks for looking in!

Boreas Pass and Mountain Laurie

First of all, Boreas Pass was a 1880’s narrow-gauge railroad route between South Park and Breckenridge, Colorado. Pam and Jerry first visited in the late ’70s, and found the route by looking up old railroad histories. The route made a pleasant day trip.

Road to Boreas Pass

Road to Boreas Pass

What turned Boreas Pass into something other than a pleasant day trip was a visit by Pam’s parents, Lorraine and Myron, in 1980. Pam and I took Lorraine and Myron to visit Boreas Pass.

Pam, Jerry, Lorraine, and Myron at Boreas Pass, 1980

Pam, Jerry, Lorraine, and Myron at Boreas Pass, 1980

Lorraine, who was later christened “Mountain Laurie” by our good friends and neighbors Hank and Elinor, loved the place. She said she felt an affinity for Boreas Pass that she had never felt elsewhere.

This high and remote pass was, at one time, home to several hundred people. There were numerous gold mines in the area, and Boreas had, for a time, its own post office. The Denver, South Park and Pacific Railroad built a line to haul supplies into Boreas and into the thriving mining town of Breckenridge, 10 miles away. The railroad built a number of buildings at Boreas, including the roadhouse. This building served as living quarters for railroad employees.

Lorraine felt she had a connection to this area. A believer in reincarnation, Lorraine said she may have had a life here before. The feeling was so strong Lorraine requested her ashes be spread around the small cabin, next to the roadhouse, after she was gone.

Lorraine in front of the cabin at Boreas Pass. 1980

Lorraine, AKA Mountain Laurie, in front of the cabin at Boreas Pass. 1980

Mountain Laurie passed away 20 years ago this November 1st. Per her request, one of her sons-in-law took her ashes and spread them around the small cabin. We hope she is resting in peace. This post is dedicated to her memory. Lorraine was my mother-in-law, but she was also my friend.

We visit every year. We have visited in the spring, summer, and fall. (In the winter the road is closed.) Some years we feel Mountain Laurie’s presence more than others. Spring is best, when the bluebirds are in the area during their migration, and the wild flowers are getting into full bloom. Wild strawberries, no bigger than the tip of Jer’s little finger, ripen close to the ground. High mountains thrust up into the blue sky, and the breeze carries the hint of summer to come.

Its a place in renewal. Fresh young pine are replacing the stumps of the timber cut long ago. The Forest Service has rescued the roadhouse and cabin and plans to preserve them. A steady steam of summer visitors stop, making the location active if not as dynamic as it once briefly was. A historical society occasionally opens the roadhouse and cabin for visitors to enter and learn of the place’s history around a warm pot-bellied stove.

There are worse places to spend eternity.

So, Boreas Pass is special to us. We visited on Labor Day this year. The aspen are just beginning to turn color, many flowers are still blooming, and the weather was great. Other family members, most recently Pam’s brother Craig and his wife Dianne, have been to the cabin on Boreas Pass as well. It is a family affair!

Below is a collection of photos we have taken at Boreas Pass over the years. They are not in any specific order. You can click on the photos to bring up a larger view. The larger view includes titles and captions containing more information about the subject of the photo.
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Land hunt #10 – long post with photos

The hunt for our “Dream Land” continued with trip number 10. Here’s how it went.

Pam and I headed east on Thursday night after work. Both of us had taken Friday off as vacation days. The plan was to stay at a B&B (the Hand Hotel) Thursday night, have most of Friday to check out properties, then return home Friday night or Saturday morning. Chores and shopping would be done on the other holiday weekend days. This arrangement worked out well, as it gave us more time in our target area. We did arrive home late Friday night.

Our Thursday night stay was at the Hand Hotel in Fairplay. Listed as a B&B, the Hand Hotel is an old hotel, but is now serving a continental breakfast. I guess that qualifies it as a B&B.

Hand Hotel B&B entrance

We found the Hand very pleasant, but quite warm during the night. Breakfast was somewhat more expansive than average for a B&B, including breakfast burritos, hard-boiled eggs, and a large variety of teas in addition to cold cereal, juice, pastries, coffee, fruit, and other breakfast goodies. After walking the dogs and eating breakfast we headed out on our property search.

Pam had organized the property listings in a 3-ring binder, making it easier to group them and use the maps we have acquired. The first stop for the day was a house on several acres of land near Florissant.

First stop of the day

The stop was disappointing, as the house had been trashed by its previous occupants. One window was gone, leaving the house open to the elements. Several inside walls had wall board missing, and others were covered with graffiti. As we have found with other listings (houses on land) in our price range, the house invariably would take a lot of work to bring up to living standards. While that would have been an option in our younger days, it is not attractive now. On to the next place.

Indian Creek 4 acre lot

4+ acre lot in Indian Creek

“4 acres with driveway in place.” We came, we saw, we left. While pleasant, the lot has a lot of unusable space, as it is split by a pretty deep ravine. Many of the lots we have seen contain such elements, and we are not keen on buying land, and paying taxes on it, if the entire parcel isn’t useable. Still, we felt we were on the right track. At least this lot could be walked on, had a driveway, trees, and was not that far from a paved road. The dogs enjoyed getting out and examining elk and deer droppings.

We stopped and looked at a series of  properties – we would cover no fewer than 11 this day  – and did not take photos of all of them. Some were too steep, some had no trees. However, we did come on 3 that we really liked and plan to further research, plus one that is very interesting but quite isolated.

The first of our “Top 3” is a lot along Hwy 61, AKA 4-mile road. (This road is near Cripple Creek.) Located on the west side of the road, and backing up to some large hills, the lot is heavily treed with a mix of aspen and pine. While walking the lot we found it to be very moist, with moss growing in some places, and containing a seasonal stream. Obviously used in the past, we located an old outhouse and a fair number of old automotive oil cans in a pile. There are some views to the north. One drawback: wash-off from the road is extensive, and it would require some work (culverts) to fix this.

Lot along Hwy 61, 4-mile Road

Lot along Hwy 61, 4-mile Road

Strangely enough, we did not have a listing for this parcel. We came across it when driving down the road looking for another parcel that we did have a listing for, so we will have to contact the realtor for more information.

The parcel we were looking for was on Craig’s List. Pam had found it while researching land for sale in this area. 10 acres with a small shed and a meadow area surrounded by mature trees. For once the billing was accurate,  probably because it wasn’t written by a realtor.

Jerry with shed, 10 acre property

Jerry with shed, 10 acre property

This property may no longer be for sale. There was no realtor sign or no “For Sale By Owner” sign to be found. Again, it will take some more research. Some of the largest aspen trees either of us have ever seen, some of them huge, are located here. We were impressed with the quiet. If tall trees and open meadows float your boat, this is the lot to have. No well or septic, and the driveway needs work, but we liked this spot a great deal. No views from the shed, but nice views from the road on the way in. If still for sale, this would be the second lot we could consider purchasing.

The 3rd lot, and Jerry’s favorite, borders Hwy 61. We did not have a listing for it, but saw the sign and had to stop and walk the property. Biggest draw is the view of Pike’s Peak western side. This photo is a view from the lot looking NE.

Pike's Peak view lot

Pike's Peak view lot

The front of the lot is meadow, but further back there is a mix of pine and aspen. The further back you go the larger the trees get. Land has a large flat area, borders a county road, and is about 1/2 mile from pavement. It is within a few miles of Cripple Creek, which offers a grocery store and an urgent care center. Other than the lack of large trees to nestle a house into, this lot offers most of what we are looking for. Jerry is excited about  this one.

A “special mention” lot is this 20 acre parcel with gorgeous views, but is all downhill. (Pam named it Hawk Heights.)

20 acre view lot

20 acre view lot

This photo does not do the views justice. Unfortunately, there is just no place to put a house. The lot has one flat spot, large enough to pitch a fair-sized tent, but that is about it for level ground!  Jerry walked over the edge to find that flat spot, about giving Pam a heart attack when he disappeared from view.

The last place we looked at is a 10 acre  parcel with a cabin on it. We had been watching the price drop over the last couple months, and decided to see if we could find it. That may sound odd, but some of these places cannot be found on Map Quest, Google Earth, or other mapping software. That was also the case with the 10 acres with the mature trees and shed; some of these properties are off-the-side-of-a-side road and require some guesswork to locate.

So we came to the end of a cul-de-sac and could not find the address. Jerry did point out, though, a trail that took off and led up a small valley. “That must be it” said he. Good thing we drive a vehicle with full-time AWD that has some clearance. Off we went.

This is what we found.

Cabin on 10 acres.

Cabin on 10 acres

Nestled in the trees, the cabin has no electric, no running water, few neighbors. It is remote and isolated. Pam found cactus, which she does not care for, but the meadow area is full of grasses and flowers. Could it be a place to camp until a house could be built, then double as a guest cabin for visitors? The interior is rough, with some insulation in but no wall boards of any type, but with a functioning fireplace.

Cabin nestled in the trees

Pam and the dogs check out the cabin nestled in the trees

Plusses are a large lot, trees, and seclusion. Minuses are a dead ground squirrel in the living room, no views from the house, and a long, undeveloped driveway. Still, the place intrigues us. While not in our top 3 picks, we can’t seem to get it out of our minds, so it remains a ‘place of interest’ even though  it meets few of our criteria. Again, if we were in our 20’s or 30’s it would be more of an option, but not now.

We consider this trip to be the most successful to date. We found no fewer than 3 lots that would be acceptable if they are still for sale and if we find they are in our price range. After  previous trips we returned home disappointed, but this time our return trip was filled with comments, discussion, “what if” scenarios, and a positive attitude that we were making progress. That’s a nice change!

Now we have something to follow up with our realtor. In my next post I hope to have more information about these lots, and where we might go from here.

Here is a slide show with more photos of this trip. The show contains more photos of the Hand Hotel and the lots we walked and visited. Click on any photo to bring up a slightly larger view that includes captions and a description.

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